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EOB Podcast EOB Podcast April 27, 2026
In this episode of The EOB Podcast, we unpacked one of the most controversial healthcare regulatory discussions happening right now: the proposed Department of Labor rule on PBM transparency.
And based on the industry response?
A lot of people are nervous.
Very nervous.
With more than 500 submitted comments from:
…the divide became crystal clear.
Some stakeholders are demanding more transparency.
Others are fighting hard to stop it.
At the center of this conversation is a proposed DOL rule that would require Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs) to disclose all compensation tied to employer health plans before contracts are signed.
That includes:
For many employers and fiduciaries, this would represent a major shift.
Because historically, plan sponsors have had very limited visibility into how PBMs actually generate revenue.
And honestly, one thing we continue hearing from employers is that they feel like they have been operating blind for years.
One of the biggest themes across the submitted comment letters was resistance around operational complexity.
Many PBMs and carriers argued that:
And honestly?
We did not exactly buy that argument.
Especially when some of the organizations making those claims are among the largest healthcare corporations in the world.
Throughout the conversation, we kept coming back to the same question:
If these companies already track profitability, pricing, rebates, contracts, and compensation internally… why would reporting it suddenly be impossible?
One of the more controversial arguments raised in multiple comment letters was the idea that employers may not be sophisticated enough to interpret PBM compensation disclosures properly.
Several submissions suggested:
We pushed back heavily on that idea.
Because at the end of the day, employers are already responsible for making fiduciary decisions on behalf of their health plans.
So the real question becomes:
How can fiduciaries properly evaluate “reasonable compensation” if they are not allowed to see the compensation structure in the first place?
That logic simply does not hold up.
Throughout this episode, we repeatedly came back to ERISA fiduciary obligations.
Under ERISA, fiduciaries are expected to:
But one of the biggest issues we continue seeing is that many employers still struggle to get:
In some situations, even obtaining basic documentation becomes difficult because vendors claim the information is “proprietary.”
That creates a serious tension between fiduciary obligations and operational reality.
Because employers are expected to oversee plans responsibly… while often lacking the visibility necessary to actually do it.
One of the most heated parts of this discussion centered around audit rights.
The proposed rule would allow plans to verify whether disclosed compensation information is actually accurate.
And unsurprisingly, many PBMs strongly opposed broad audit provisions.
Some comment letters argued that:
Honestly, we found this to be one of the most revealing parts of the entire comment process.
Because transparency without verification is not really transparency.
If disclosures cannot be audited or validated, then employers are still largely operating on trust alone.
Another major theme throughout the episode was the repeated claim that the rule would create an overwhelming operational burden.
Several carriers argued they would need:
UnitedHealthcare specifically argued that employers could become overwhelmed by “multiple layers” of PBM compensation data and ongoing updates.
But throughout the conversation, we kept asking:
Is this really about operational complexity… or is it about protecting existing business models?
Because transparent PBMs already exist.
Which means this level of reporting clearly can be done.
That alone weakens a lot of the arguments against the rule.
One thing we continue hearing from plan sponsors is frustration.
A lot of employers feel:
And even when employers want answers, they often run into:
That creates a system where employers are expected to govern responsibly without always having the tools necessary to do so.
We also spent time discussing whether these transparency requirements should apply beyond self-funded plans.
Some industry stakeholders argued that fully insured employers should not receive direct PBM disclosures because they are not technically contracting with the PBM themselves.
Others believe transparency should expand much further across the healthcare ecosystem.
That naturally opened a broader conversation around:
And honestly, even we acknowledged that some of these questions are still evolving.
But the bigger point remains:
more transparency almost always benefits fiduciary oversight.
While PBMs remained the primary focus, this discussion repeatedly expanded into larger healthcare transparency issues.
We talked about:
At several points, we found ourselves asking whether the healthcare system has simply become too layered and too opaque for employers to navigate effectively anymore.
Because once you start following where money flows inside healthcare, the level of complexity becomes hard to ignore.
One of the clearest takeaways from this conversation was this:
The debate is not really about whether compensation exists.
Everyone knows compensation exists.
The real debate is about:
who gets to see it.
And once employers fully understand:
…the market itself may start changing.
That possibility seems to be driving much of the resistance.
Toward the end of the episode, we discussed one idea that could potentially reduce friction across the industry:
standardized disclosure formats.
Instead of every organization creating:
…standardized disclosures could help:
And importantly, standardization could make transparency far more actionable.
Because transparency only matters if employers can realistically understand and use the information.
This episode was not just about PBMs.
It was about a much larger question:
Should employers and fiduciaries have the right to fully understand how healthcare dollars are flowing through their own plans?
Because once transparency enters the conversation, it naturally leads to:
And that is where things start getting uncomfortable for some organizations.
One thing we continue seeing across the healthcare industry is that employers are no longer willing to simply accept “trust us” as an answer.
They are asking for visibility.
And honestly, they should be.
Because this proposed rule could become one of the most significant transparency shifts the healthcare industry has seen in decades.
The Department of Labor proposed a rule requiring PBMs to disclose compensation details tied to employer health plans, including rebates, spread pricing, fees, and indirect compensation.
Many PBMs argue the reporting requirements are too complex, operationally burdensome, and difficult to implement within the proposed timeline.
ERISA requires plan fiduciaries to act prudently, monitor vendors, evaluate reasonable compensation, and act in the best interest of plan participants.
Audit rights allow employers to verify whether disclosed compensation and pricing information is accurate and complete.
Spread pricing occurs when a PBM charges a health plan more for a prescription drug than it reimburses the pharmacy, keeping the difference as profit.
Potentially. Increased transparency may help employers better evaluate PBM contracts, compensation arrangements, and overall plan costs.
To hear the full conversation on PBM transparency, ERISA fiduciary responsibility, healthcare pricing, audit rights, and the future of healthcare regulation, visit The EOB Podcast.
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